Once you do this no one will ever dare to discriminate or abuse you. Humanity before religion, thats where I stand. Paaji most sikh chamar do not attend guru ravidas temples in England because they are a pro Dera Ballan, hence they have their own Nishan Sahib and jakara. Status and caste is what Hindus believe in. Mude. Wish you all the best. The Scheduled Castes make up about 16.6 percent of the population of India (according to the 2011 census). Let it be clear to all those who comment a lot of non sense on this website that caste and gotras have no meaning.No one is related to any one after 6/7 generations.So fools are the people who feel proud of their gotras and castes.Sikh Gurus preached abolition of castes and condemned in strongest terms.Non of the Gurus ever made any mention of his caste or gotra. On this list there are many many names that belong to our BRAHMIN Caste. You will be shocked by the truth. You ignorant woman! This is among traditional Indian last names. Jai Guru Ravidas Ji. ALL YOU PPL ARE FUCKED HERE! khuttan , bains, paul, kajla, singh, takhi. Yes chamars do talk about caste a LOT, but with very good reason. tera dimag or jaban batati hai ki tu Chammar kyon hai ! Jalandhar So inform me if you put all due and thn why you not put our surname here .. .. not long back, recent past great jat leader sir chhoturam humbly requested the govt then that floor grinding stone n oxen of jat may not be kept as rahan by the bania lending them money while janta party prime minister desai resigned requesting the president if babu jabjivanram could manage the crisis however ch. You have a problem in India where corruption has got worse due to the fact that for a very long time scheduled caste people were not allowed to Be in a position of power and since the laws changed and they were given senior positions in India corruption has trebled as a lot,of these people came from poor backgrounds and have taken advantage of this .There was always corruption in India but it is the worst it has ever been. Peaaacee. Bhagat Ravidass Ji did not have a successor and did not write no Amrit bani, he was a against Hindus and their rituals, against idol worshipping, against the million Devi devtas they follow and against the caste system. When kingdoms fell, people from SCs identified themselves by saying which dynasty they belonged to ie Soni Chohan Sidhu Johal. I think every caste should proud of their history. & Date 1. etc.. My ancestors would be disgusted if they saw all these egotistical songs and even my family in India that do work hard in farms seven days a week and have the right to use the word Jatt. Kataria Parivaar Jathere where village in punjab anybody tell me plzzz. no rest until its done. non of communities is liked by brahminsm standing on baisakhi of varna /caste /religion superioty . "We use Ram as our surname, but we may also take on another surname. Bcoz baki chamar sirname . The struggle isnt over, there are still hurdles we must overcome. THESE RESERVATIONS ARE CREATING A DISSATISFACTION WITH THE OTHER BRILLIANT STUDENTS OF OTHER CASTE AND IN THIS WAY THEY ARE DEPRIVED OF THEIR RIGHTS AS A CITIZEN OF INIDIA, Gothwal See ..chamars no offence meant..par yr reservation to mat lotum bolte ho ki hme society me izzat nhi milti.lekin khud socho tum khud hi apne ap ko peechde varg ka dikhaoge to sabhi Gen vale tum se jealousy krte h..tum agar hmare jaisa bn na chahte ho to apne aap ko pehle is reservation se alag kro.nhi to zindagi bhar ke liye galliyan khate rho sabhi se, Hi my cast is sc ad hmara gotr siprea ha but ham re gotr ki khi v sati place nhi mil rhi agr aap kisi ko kuch pta chle tu jrur btana ad is gotr ki koe site v nhi hai net pe, aap sabhi log kya 18 v sdi me jee rhe ho kyaa abhi v jaat paat pe itna bhedh bhaw kya baat hai iska mtlb aap anpardh ho ad shoti soch ko bilong krteho o my god, hello i want to know where is raju gaut jathere. We will be rulers of India again, quite rightly so. My Surname is SALHAN and we are not Chamar. Thanks for contributing. First one was to satisfy the hunger of body (for food) and second langar was to act as platform for social change. :- , - HALF THOSE LAST NAMES WIL ALWAYS BE JATT LAST NAMES AND YOU GUYS ARE NOT JATT. So you will see a Sikh doing sewa and keeping the shoes of incomign sangat in gurudwara or washing the utensils in gurudwara. Aur agar kisi bhai ko jankari chahiye to mujhe contact kr skta hai on my personal no. Punjab National Bank, - , ( ), | | :-, | || PLEASE HELP, My gotra kulhadiya my name Tinku kumar kulhadiya jaadav, My surname is jhalli.iam belonging to chamar community, Hame biswash Nahi hoto ki divya Well it all depends on how people see themselves as. number proffesionals in THE world . They recognised that the untouchables had suffered a lot over many centuries untold and it was time to integrate them into the fabric of the Indian society, which is why untouchability was outlawed. why sandhu are treated bad everwhere . . Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. wakil extortion ka dhanda khol kar baitha he . I repeat, bains summan sandhu atwal heer sahota are ALSO jatt surnames. On this latter point I wish to declare my interest that I have three relatives who are officers in India in the Indian Admistrative Service and all three had to take competative examinations in IRS, IPS and IAS to get jobs and did pass their written exams and interviews stages to gain the positions they hold. Some examples of prevailign mindset are : Born of the feet of Brahma, if a shudra speaks harshly to Brahmin, Kshatriya or Vaish, the king should get his tongue cut. Sandhu is another of those names. also add the sur name KATNOR. police ki naukari mili pura systm barbad . as fas i know .Bhardwajs are not chamar .. ? Guru Ravidass Shakti Amar Rahe, Bassan surname is Ramgarhia, jathere at pind Chama near Tanda, Jila Hoshiarpur, but as people in this world are so knowledgeable, anything can be stated and taken as gospel. The Chamars are as Indian citizens as you are. do you know about Baba Ram Singh Ji. Very important occupations identifier surnames as Chamar ( cobbler), Dom ( worker in a burning ghat) have been used for calling somebody names. Our Bhagats & Gurus done so much for us and know ravidassias are doing the opposite. I respect your views , why did you use fucking om with that . It was only a few decades ago that YOUR jatt sikh ancestors were beating and killing chamars for entering your sikh temples. Hinduism does not even qualify to be called a religion. Our sikh Gurus & Bhagats have sacrificed all their lives to unite us all together, Bhagat ravidas Ji gave his bani to guru Nanak dev Ji to be included in the Guru Granth Sahib Ji, why dont these Dera Ballan Authorities respect that and also be proud sikhs. Remember, whether you are Jatt or Chumar or any caste, you follow the same religion, you read the same Book. Which caste comes under SC in UP? They became scattered and the modern day romany or gypsies are the decendants of the Jatts. Read Manu smiriti chapter 8 verse 418 it says King should maintain and enforce the caste duty on the the shudras(80% of Indian people) and that if they slip from that duty they would shake the world into chaos. Go to their websites and contact them. You are here: hackberry allergy symptoms; 49ers paying players under the table; chamar caste surnames list in up . all of u be bold yr agar self introspection karge bbat samajh mein aaayegi ki sabhi ka pita ek hi h or wo h upar wala. they were very rich spritualy as well financialy. Kuch v mat bol. I knew a guy whose last name was Chahal and I always thought that he is a Punjabi Jutt . WAKE UP PUNJABIYO. Hello everybody! Dont worry about these Brahmins they are the biggest pussies on the planet, one slap and its a knock out. Rana comes from Sanskrit and means "king.". locality: charkhi dadri,bhiwani. Visualise and see the new India without. When Guru Nanak discovered the truth by accepting the sacha sauda gift(the Truth) as a blessing from the Bhagats, he wanted to proclaim this to the world.The brahmins had been telling the Indians of caste system as the truth created by God and even created fictional figures such as Krishna and Ram and others, to legitimise this lie.This lie was challenged many times before but more fiercely when Guru Nanak came along. I am challenging you all, sikhism is non casteism panth either you follow that and leave your subcaste drama or leave sikhism and say you are chamar labana ramghariya khatri majhabi etc.. Frends this is 21 St century,but humanity comes first of all .kya ham sab ko 1 hi parmeshwar ne ni banaya , how can u treat abusively with other persons claiming them Chhota castes,neech log, while u just look like them .this is not right.it hurts feelings and self-respect of a person .we all do our works and feed our families.so dont talk over nonsence things.aadmi bada Naam se ni kaam se hota h. Be of others. Or even lie about it if you can. The truth may not be palatable to you and yet it is on the truth the sikh religion is founded by Guru Nanak and the Bhagats he met during his mission. Can you explain why only Sikhs ask me what caste I am , even hindus dont ask that anymore. Jatts dont decide who is Singh or not. Castes should become irrelevant in this transition. Then you also proceed to say that as a result of reservation, the scheduled castes have taken advantage of this power ,causing them to increase corruption threefold. Gore. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. HELLO SIR MY NAME IS NAGENDER I BELONG TO CHAMAR . There is nothing wrong with respecting our ancestoral heritage. I am from an agricultural background, tharkan are from a carpenting background, chamar are from a cobbling background. I do agree with the lady that we talk too much about caste on religious events, and would much rather listen to gurbani and keertan on such events, than the ramblings of several community leaders/ politicians on caste. What is the need to tell anyone about your caste? The people from my community may be poor but you will find them honest. every single jatt is not brave and strong . Bangar Basra Bhutta Chumber Dugh Jassal Kainth Leer Mahay Mahey Mahi Mall Ranu Simk Singhmar Jassy Chumer Sheemar Heer Banga Bhardwaj Kajla Ram Sandhu Kumar Kumari Singh Jassal Mehmi Janagal Badhan Raju Jhim Lal Dhanda Azad Karra Bassan Loach Choor Karloopia Shivgotra Bangotra Kalsi Angural Thapa Dabi Dalia Attri Dhupad . http://www.facebook.com/pages/Im-chamar-and-im-proud-of-being-so/103545543080725?skip_nax_wizard=true. every single jatt is not brave and strong . 20 chamar surnames are widely distributed in majha and doaba of Punjab. longest constituition is of india .lekin kisko justice milta he? N EX MINISTER IN GOVT OF INDIA TRYING SINCE LAST 35 YEARS TO HAVE FATHER NAME BUT THE BRAHMIN ENJOYED HIGH POSITIONS MLA / M P / MINISTER /REAPETEDLY CM / GOVERNOR AND HIS BRAHMIN COMMUNITY WHISHING HIM PM /PRESIDENTSHIP OF INDIA COWARD HAS NOT COME FARWARD TO GIVE HIM BIOLOGICAL FATHER NAME DESPITE DNA TEST REPORT . born dis way, Tum khali reservation lekar select ho jao.caste certificate main banwa dunga..hai dum. Thank you for the interesting story. can one believe a kunbi caste girl married to a jat calling herself rajput ? I guess you already recognized these two organizations. Sastry refers to a scholar and means "one who is proficient in the Sastras" in Sanskrit. gotra of father is gotra of son MOST OF GOTRAS R SAME IRRESPECTIVE JOB DUTIES PERFORMED WHETHER FARMING , TEACHING ,HUNTING , FISHING ,FIGHTING,TRADING OR ELSE . reservation se government naukari to mil gai kya kiya? which can be found in LCD, Plasma perhaps even rear-projection designs. U will be punished Sandhu isnt chamar. please add JATTU (ravidasia sikhs from ldh. But other peoples eyes they just have a huge ego or think think are better then every individual just because they are a higher caste. [50] Balahi have major concentration in Ujjain, Khargone and Dewas districts. Do some research. , Well I am Chamar, 12 years Ago I accepted Jesus Christ, but My caste is still chamar, So I am looking for some chamar girl who is a christian for marriage, so please tell me if u know some. If you are educated person plz read Indian history. Let no one divide us. sikhism was found without caste discrimination .the why u people are crying we are chamar chamar? Since some people adopted occupations other than their majority community or they were excommunicated from their community but they continued to bear the same gotra as it does not change with adoption of their new religion or caste . They have been with us since time immemorial. SOME OF THE SURNAMES DO NOT BELONG TO YOU CHAMAARS IN THE LIST ABOVE, SO STOP FLATTERING YOURSELVES AND FOOLING THE WORLD. jatt is alsso hindu and muslims. They started a revolution to help the low castes to break away the shakles of the caste sytem. You have your own new religion now so its about time you stop going on about your identities and start respecting what you believe. No matter what party is in power the Brahmins are there as rulers. thanx. Use your head stupid.Do your research check out that sahota is a surname that falls in chamar, valmik and jatt castes. also gumarwal is a chamar namei belong to this family. All respectable social people are informed with great pleasure that the construction of a grand temple (gurudwara) of Saint Shiromani Ravidas Ji Maharaj has been envisaged by the social people, in which a Mangal Bhawan is to be constructed along with the Gurudwara. The districts of, This page was last edited on 4 March 2023, at 19:46. Whats the origin of sidhu chamar gotra?i only know the history of jat sidhu gotra. Read Manusimriti. We are very proud people thank you very much. sahi kaha ,sabse bade untochable toh ye bramhin hi hote h bcoz bhramhin is very selfish. The move will leave greater space in the OBC quota for the remaining OBC caste groups. Sikhs helped DC of Amritsar to catch these revolutionaries and more than 300 were burried alive in AJNALA near Amritsar. i have a request and suggestion to all my chamar brothers, please take keen interest in education. e wrng a fr sir..pehla dhan guru granth sahib g fr guru ravidas g, Exactly, even Virk, Bhutta, Bhatti, Jassal, Johal and Saroa are Jatt Surnames, Gotras or sub castes have nothing to do with castes . othe v mil hi jana .. think first then share your views .. 22g . jai bheem You might also connect the HDTV to your the reason is clear ,we have to aware about ourselves and our casts. Meri jaat kamini paat kamini osha janam hamara !! im jatt n do no respect chamars..but it is not true if we define ourself into caste rather than different races..in last 50yrs every sechuled caste n other backward caste start using our Jatt surnames..which we didnt know this day until facebook came..as more n more jats start getting educated ,we start knowing our history ,today most of jats know we have Scythian blood lineage n this already been proving in DNA testing..all DNA testing done on Jats hve found 98% of Jat males have highest no of Cascusinan n North east european blood which not find among any other castes of india.. we r not mention in any vedic history bcz we not living from time of vedic culture..Jats,Kamboj n Gujjars were last migrants on the land of indian sub contienent in region of North Sind n nosouth punjab ,who we r living only last 2500yrs..there was no chamars before birth of Guru Nanak in punjab ,wen Guru Nanak went to East india he brought 500 Chamar families with in him ,if u read Udasi of Guru Nanak u found clearly written in that.later 50000 slaves who were Chamars were brought into Punjab by british wen hunger n starvation hit india in 1870-90 n 30millon er castes hindu died that time..now Jats surnames r 1000s yrs older than migration of chamars into punjab.like Sandhu Jatt surname is 1200yrs old so how can u people b one of us..u have austrico dravidian negriod blood we have Scythians ,our DNA r different than to yours ,u look different than to us by facial features,how can we r same..all brahmans r not Aryans ,50% Brahmans have dravidian blood.even Dr Ambedkar wrote Brahmans of Punjab have same blood as Chamars of Punjab.. this is really big issue which gonna burn down north west india into fire, we Jats r planning n wondering wat we have to do to stop u people by using our surnames.u will gonna see in next 10-15yrs it will b big issue.. are jatt kyu sade pde ho tum khattar sarkaar jindabaad jato ki fati padi hai kyu chamaro pe jor nikal reho apna. Wagh. Why not honor God above all. Sir..Mathuriya surname which belong in cast. Vairy ni puttha tangiye. Welcome to Set'Em Free Bail Bonds +1 214-752-4000 info@setemfreedallas.com Bal Instead of working for abolition of castes you people are continuing to firming up caste system. For other castes: we are not against any body. Regards.. Casteism is a practice that Hindu society will never remove because its a a part of their religion. [16], A section of Chamars claimed Kshatriya status as Jatavs, tracing their lineage to Krishna, and thus, associating them with the Yadavs. BECAUSE YOUR ADULTS ARE SO IGNORANT AND ILLITERATE THAT THEY DONT EVEN KNOW HOW TO PREVENT BREEDING LIKE ANIMALS. old with the blashings of sringi rishi who was also given his sister whose progny of brahmins spreaded thouhgt . Be proud to be Sikh. reservation is a right ok. or bhai vo sarkar esliue nahi de rhi ki koi ehsaan kar rhi ho lowerclass people par. It is a derogatory word given by Muslim invaders to Indians. It has created bad feelings and destroyed good relationships. Chamar - A glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province By H.A. Jai guru dev dhan guru dev ji. Clearly not a very palatable move. Im sad to even say our community but their will be no other way to make you understand. house network by the ethernet dock or link up it in your computer NORTH surnames is also comes in this community mainly in Malwa belt (Ludhiana Lalton kalan village ), Jatt & Chamar are best of friends and live side by side, we follow same religion, we have same colour skin and blood lol, we are humans end of the day. please also add Bhatoa ,as it is a chamar surname. All these power structures they RESERVED for themselves. If they abuse you also abuse them .You must learn to retaliate. Its who we are, I dont think we should get special privileges cause we are Jatt but it is who we are, so why cant we be proud of that? . . Thats where you getting it wrong. I believe exactly the same- there is no caste. so it is not caste ,color,race but deeds are to be considered for evaluating a person if u really wishing welfare of humanity as a whole. YES CHURAS AND CHAMARS ARE MOVING UP IN THE WORLD TOO.HOOORAY FOR YOU GUYS:), yo im a sahota 2 *snap* nd plus sahota, sandhu are JATT so u fukin get ur facts right, Bhatoa (Bhatia), Bishanpal, Maan, Guru, Mitterpal, Gill, Badhan, Ghera, Thanda, Bhauria, par parah mereya . FACT. Desiangel do not talk like unclutured and uneducated person. (Manu Simariti Chap. Raja Chanvarsen[8] belongs to Chawar[9] Vansh of Chamars. Are you serious or are you taking the piss? When any one else calls by the name of chamar he is being blamed of passing casteist remarks and booked under atrocities onSC/ST Act which is a non bailable offence .I should say that chamars are more caste conscious and believe in casteism Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhon. human beings have no caste while animals have-donkey ,horse , sheep , goat etc like brahman protected by kshtriya financed by vaishya n served by sudra agaist which system all khatri gurus have spoken as they were from the same system where from saints, bhagats, gurus, mahatmas arise . i m from rajasthan (banswara city ) . FIR should be made to POLICE against this person. That is your social class and that is your status the karma of what you have done. include, jatt chamar ek dusre ke bhai bhai hai inko alag mat kro, dhania,ranga,johal,dahiya,gahlot,mahandirata,mehndi,muwaal, these all peoples are belong chamar plz add. A caste is your social status moron and being Jatt is my ancestry. As a Sikh this is all useless to me but Im sure as Hindu which I believe you are, there is nothing wrong you believing in surname and caste. kaya baat kahi hai saurav bahi hum inko dikha denge, my also royal chamar my name is Honey Nimbhoira, Hey! Ravidassias are promoting their own caste and casteism in general and also politics which I believe is wrong and opposite way to tackle things to our gurus. Vinod Kumar as priests have nothing else to do, they would squeeze the money out of poor people in the name of GOD irrespective of caste and some like Assaram(if you might be following news you would know, Oh yes! He has clearly elucidated his very well considered point of view. chamar caste surnames list in up. population as at tJiBn atlon of POpufo 0 the last census of the Scheduled Castes or, as the case may be, of Scheduled Your pride and arrogance is based on pure ignorance or a lie. We are accusing these imbeciles of stealing and lying. sikhon ka blla ho jaga, Bhaskar grovar/gure mehra chahal lamba taank bhi chamar surname h mere relative or dost h, add poonia,meharda,bairwal,barupal,rolan,rathi,bhatia,parihar,chouhan,suda,birat,,gunpal,kataria,bhatti,godha,dhania,sheemar,joiya,baror(from brar),jakhu(jakhar),kantia,mangliya,duggal,chopra,other uncounted, TODAY THE WORD CHAMAR IS NOT A WORD OF SHAME BUT A WORD OF FAME AND PROUD .ITS MY HUMBLE REQUEST TO AII OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBER PLEASE DO NOT HESISTATE TO DISCLOSE YOUR CASTE. I dont care what chammars do, their still people in my eyes, but stop taking our last names and pretending to be us. My father name is :RAM DASS i m not chamar . I mean how can we obliterate a system 10s of thousands of years old. During the muslim invasion of India many jatts fought against the muslims in the 12th century. Special Note:- The said committee works for the upliftment of poor and sick old people, children and women at the social level. Behan Ke yaar agar ek baap ka hai to apna pta de and Kaam bta kaya karna hai Tu.. Dekhta hoon kitni akali hai tujhmein.. She cant do good to others As what she did was a selfish act. PUTTTT JATTANNNN DE. SC Jati List 2022, - (SC Mein Kaun Kaun Si Jaati Aati Hai ) (scheduled caste list) . Sahota is jatt gotra. Well said and I agree with you. You are obviously as young man hothead and emotional and proud which is overbearing your mental faculties. Tabhi wha ke log hamse aage hai kyu ki wha pe caste ya dharam nahi balki talent dekha jaata hai .. Rustic people, Tum jaise log is Desh ki kabhi ek jutt nahi hone doge mujhe nahi pta ki tumahri umr kya hai or ye zarur pta hai ki tum or tumhare Parivar ki bhi soch tumhari terha gandi hogi, Saleyo khatriyo brahmano te vaishyao tenu pta ni saleyo u r not indians u r aryans yo russia se aye hai saleyo e tera ni sada desh hai tohe saleyo anjraje kola b gande ho une tf share aam luteya hi bt tuhe saleya religion da sahara leya india gi lutne ch, abe tum saalo to reservation ki vajah se select ho jaate ho.varna chamaro me aakal kaha, Hum reservation ki wajah se select ho jaate hai. sirf bramhan dikhte he? The rise of dalits will continue until we take control of Delhi. mothers of mahabhata biyash were ganga n satyawati jala/mala/kevat nit was person from same caste who was ferry man of ramchander . No disrespect. Hindu religion again in the hands of the Brahmins. We finally have the right to educate ourselves, lift ourselves out of poverty, speak of the injustices we face and give our future generations the same chances in life that you have. When the Mandal Commission Report recommended that the Shudras(OBCs) should also be given reservation, students from the 15%, instigated by the RSS and its sister organisations, started agitation encouraging students from previleged 15% castes to protest against the proposals by setting themselves alight so as to cause outrage in the country to stop the proposals also citing caste and not merit as the main consideration for allocation of student enterance into prestigeous education institutions. [13], Between the 1830s and the 1950s, the Chamars in the United Provinces, especially in the Kanpur area, became prosperous as a result of their involvement in the British leather trade.