Site issues? What? Hi John, you made very valid points. During all these years we always felt Turbosquid favored a sort of chaos and unfair competition between sellers because they were profiting a lot from that lack of understanding and cooperation between content creators. Prices are only guaranteed at the time of the creation of this document. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. 60% is an insult. I am new starter here. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. They will be very enlightening and useful to you especially if you have never built 3D models and don't know what to expect. In this case the fastest support can not help. In 2020, I've opened a CGT account and start selling interesting 3D Models. Every market needs time, every business needs it. My current store on CGTrader includes numerous items that were deemed to be infringing upon GW IP (link below). Everything is more and more coming down to individual levels of very friendly and much more human communication. Comment goo's like this, quote "Awesome model, converted this guy over into maya and he looks great" end quote. They also have multiple sellers selling the same products so that it is easier for people to avoid people paying for shipping in their country. (e.g. Maybe I live in an unrealistic parallel reality, where at least some people still have some dignity and know how and when to differentiate good vs evil and take a public stand with actions instead of just words. Of course if you have a PC with quad processors over 16 GB of ram things will be different but be warned students and low end users. For small buyers this is likely the case, but serious corporate buyers may have other priorities atop of lowest price. If CGT wants to play big and attract high quality traffic and designers/buyers, it has to invite the sellers to opt for a more mature approach in my humble opinion. I started uploading some of my items to cg trader to see if it generated any income but as I have 70+ items and 0 sales I have decided to stop. Say you happen to be a great render and lighting specialist but not so well a modeler, you see this nice models that have potential but the presentation is very bad (from good modeler with no render skills). ", Exactly, no one knows the model better than the one who made this model. This would have probably be true for newcomers 5 years ago, but now that is different. There are currently no models in your cart. In one case, the model is promising, commercial, and then set a high price. And it is convenient for the buyer and profitable for the seller. TurboSquid Member Services, I'm a first time seller (+-2 Months). Maybe there is something behind the scenes what you can't know or can't tell? If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. So click on a category. And precisely here is where I think resides the greater problem. Very soon there will be robots that can scan objects faster than any modeler can model them and then reproduce a print almost instantly in 10 to 30 years 3D jobs will be irrelevant but until then someone needs to really bring CGtrader to the big markets. There are indeed some snags in data management and the sorting out system. Click here to submit yours . Answer: IN my opinion Turbosquid is a great site for selling models. Cgtrader better sell my shoes here than ts.plus webmoney plus royalty rate. what you say doesn't make any sense because CGTrader has a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all models as far as I know. Machines have already replaced people making their jobs irrelevant in many fields already more and more customer service jobs have become automated, many store sales positions now are not needed because so much is being done online, the tolls on the highways now only use fast track or you get a letter in the mail telling you to pay it because there is no one in the booth anymore so you can't pay it on the road. I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. On other hand I could also think its just some clients that do not care about the price difference, they just prefer using the Ts account. Why should the artist suffer? Besides how about your right to fair trade? or I can just sell on cgt and artstationm marketplace? Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. So just to be constructive (and this will be my last post here, because I don't want to hijack the thread anymore, here are some ideas : But i think its not only the responsability of cgtrader to turn this around. That's just an easy question to answer 1. Here at CGtrader you can do all of that and much much more which is awesome!! That's what I'm saying all the time and what I didn't like because I was not selling models for 3d printing and reason why I left. CGt embraces all modern communication technologies which is critical to establish such a place. I posted my first model today and have to say it was a very pleasant experience. We had the experience of a 3d modeling agents (UKW) stealing our models before and stopped selling with them, from there on we put a small signature on each model. Hell, I even remember writing years ago to Matt Wisdom (TS Founder & CEO), Beau Perschall (VP of Business Dev) and other people at the management staff about the "no-brainer" choice for sellers regarding going exclusive into the "Squid Guild" or not, because after a group of sellers collected our stats and compared our earnings (for similar periods of time being exclusive and not) all of us ended with the clear conclusion that we were losing revenue being exclusive to TS instead of selling in all markets no single answer was received from any TS management staff member. The paypal commission is paid 2 times - 1 when the model is bought, 2 times - when money is paid to the seller. My response was, not going to do that, its my work I decide the price. If a company like Disney or NASA buys a model at TS, they advertise it as "Turbosquid customers buying Turbosquid models". It certainly is an interesting read all together, thanks for documenting it so well and make the whole thing public, although I hope you don't stay embarked on a power struggle whit Ts management. Look for the big picture and think medium/long term. However, probably allot of us silently disagree on how we are treated as artist on places like Ts. Escorts jaipur CGtrader is everything Ts is not, CGtader is fair, its open and communicative in all directions, its an inexpensive service, its new and more efficient, has lots of exiting tools, have more sales and get to keep bigger part, its growing fast, its updating and improving fast, etc, etc,. So what's needed? (e.g. I remember fighting them at length to try to put my brand name withing the model description or my website link and eventually lost the battle. No frankly, it's a bloody mystery. You can download any 3d model in all popular 3d formats including MAX, OBJ, FBX, 3DS, STL, C4D, BLEND, MAYA and other. Another point in favor cgtrader is that the royalties and buy a model possible in the payment system WebMoney. I can easily imagine that serious clients who value their time very high, might choose TS over CGT without second thought. I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. - Are you interested in just some quick cash grabs and extras here and there while you can, or would you like to be able to contribute to a fair market where you can make a living out of your passion? This is due to discrimination in the pricing policy of the "TS" site. To be honest, it's hard to me to believe that such respectable people like Mantas and Eduardas would refuse to remove negative feedback if it was given without firm reason. Lots of people buy posters to print and put on their walls especially students. I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there" [link="http://www.google.com"]google1[/link] Another thing that drove me crazy about Turbosquid was how you couldn't promote any of your social media and it made it very difficult to get your clients from let's say Facebook and Twitter to notice your artwork. Agree with every word above. Then there is the stupid "reputation" point issue. Tom cat cartoon character rigged for Maya 12. Batman (Rig) for Maya 10. . Got my model (https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/furniture/cabinet/handles-vol-01-pbr) Is it fair if I do? The more people ho place your item in their stores the higher your ranking for that product gets "in the pool that is". A shitstorm war is going on between the "Wisdom" brothers & their Top $ Corporate Investors against Marius' CGtrader, who is leading the inclusive people that don't dance to the song of dangling shiny coins in front of their eyes just for the time being and the now. Just my fifty cents. Hello. And some may post a part of a set, and ad a link to the complete set, others may just do it to spread their work and name, etc. IMHO that is main area where CGT must up their game significantly. found jet another working example that makes CGt stand out. NoneCG will be up for it. At the time my CGt account was not performing so well and it enforced that belief (it was probably due to longer presence and better position on Ts and new on CGt). To my repliers: Despite offering models much cheaper (obviously) here than at TSquid, the clients prefer to buy on TSquid. Turbosquid.com4. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. There is plenty of "undercutters" everywhere and some short-sighted content developers that seem to only care about quick cash-grabs and most of the time doesn't even have enough data to state a valid opinion based on the contrast of facts over medium-long periods of time. Anyway, there is still some ocasional Turbosquid fanboy that bashes CGtrader and promotes Turbosquid in public forums and social media while writes this in TS forums at the same time: - Limiting free objects to, let's say licensed objects like Stars Wars or Lego or whatever in an unlimited number, but to a few when it comes to "showcase" objects, let's say, 4 to 5 per designer, to help potential buyer judge the overall quality of the seller objects Then there is the stupid "reputation" point issue. Think about your future: From buyer perspective, i think CGTrader also have lots of advantages. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. Dear adentonclark, I was victim of that there a few months ago, I had a bad rating when the model have never had a problem during many years. just share your links (: I like both but prefer cgtrader all day. Well, it was more than one year ago that I last intervened on this thread. Gritsuk : Hello Friends, glad to present you my model Female Hand Realistic. I agree with the last post, searching for models should not be a pain. - CGTrader pays a LOT more than TS; TS *keeps* 60% unless you sell exclusively on their site and join their "Squid Guild". They often would ask me to just send them a model through email and pay me through paypal like in the old days. And good thing that you decided to tell about - such things should go public and be discussed. On TS buyer cant do such thing, he needs to contact support on TS. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. Same for me, here. While there is some sellers that naively think they can rely on Turbosquid's good will to improve their situation in the future, the rest of us should be start working together towards a collective benefit. Fact is and I have been saying it for years is that there is a super limited amount of people who care about 3D. The last handful of successful high end 3D studios still buy those models because they know that the scenes have to be clean, geometry has no odd manifold or abnormal issues and the modelers have to jump through all kinds of hoops to ensure the quality of the model including providing high quality 360 renders. TurboSquid. Is the same for me as everyone else. I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. - Fixing some guidelines to upload quality models (at least assuring that obj models, for instance, if textured, should have a proper .mtl file, limiting the models to quads/tris, imposing materials and textures to have understandable names, etc. But for the rest i do like the way cgtrader functions, more royalty rate, easy uploading and a community forum and job board. 3. I'm planing to start new discussion on this topic in near future, so i won't go into details here, i'll just ask did anybody tried to enter same keywords in TS and CGT search field? But i think CGT nows that pretty well, that's why they decided to bring changes in royalty policy and hopefully they will steer additional cash flow towards making this stock market more attractive to the buyers. According to me ,in the future, more a 3DMarketplace will be open more it will take to success. And even if you sell the same models on other side you can advertise them as being the cheapest here. If anything buyers should get lots of points for buying. To my amazement something ells also happened, there where still a few people buying my more expensive models on Ts. TurboSquid is garbage. You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. When I started on cgtrader I had more sales than on TS. This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. The age of 3D models is over and people have moved on to 3D printing. Plus giving much higher royalties, instantly paid, much better support, publishing system, etc. Payment Method Search is terrible, and lost if you have to go backwards a page. That thing is just getting started ;-). personally CGTrader is the second site where I realize more sales, I think we should avoid generalizing his own experience. Some while ago someone (if he is real, can't even verify that) bought my snakebot model on Ts and he posted a nice comment. ;). A few months went by with my models offline and during that time my GCt sales gradually went up at a level consistent with the few sales I had left behind on Ts so I just deleted all my models at Ts. I'm done with them. Recently I've been trying to contact my old clients and buyers and although they still have an interest in my models they don't quite trust CGT with their money. Most people don't care a bit about all this. I think this computer graphics industry just needs a well known and established hub specific to our profession, and one that is being run with good core principals like we see it here on CGt. Large studios with "turbosquid" collaborate very limitedly.